RE: [DL] Deadlands d20 question - gunfighter vs. arcane

["Jeff Yates" <jyates@primaryfunction.com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-deadlands@gamerz.net [mailto:owner-deadlands@gamerz.net]On
> Behalf Of William Ogden
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:09 AM
> To: deadlands@gamerz.net
> Subject: Re: [DL] Deadlands d20 question - gunfighter vs. arcane
>
>
> >From: PEGShane@aol.com
> >Reply-To: deadlands@gamerz.net
> >To: deadlands@gamerz.net
> >Subject: Re: [DL] Deadlands d20 question
> >Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:10:35 EDT
> >
> >In a message dated 10/22/2001 7:23:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >w_ogden@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> >
> > > It's not that they don't understand the system, they feel the Arcane
> >types,
> > > esp Hucksters and Shamens, can be overpowering.  Basically, a plain
> > > gunfighter could not stand up to a hexslinger or Wolf shamen.  This
> >ignores
> > > the general trend in my group towards playing spellcasters
> becuase they
> >are
> > > more fun.
> > >
> > > I don't disagree with them, and have put in some tweaks to
> kind of level
> > > the
> > >
> >
> >;) Most people think arcane types are no match for gunslingers.
> Just goes
> >to
> >show ya, everyone plays differently.
> >
> >Shane
>
> (I'm totally honored.  The Man responded to one of my posts!)
>
> My group tends to be into magically enhanced warriors.  Be it in
> GURPS, or
> Shadowrun, or dnd fighter/sorcs, we often have a couple of warrior types
> with a handfull of spells, or wizards who can swing a blade or squeeze a
> trigger.  Given time to get their spells up, those types can often beat a
> straight fighter/warrior/combat guy.  Without time to prep the
> advantage is
> usually to the non-magial, but you can only ambush the posse so
> many times.
>

But doesn't it stand to reason that any given combatant A with a distinct
advantage X over combatant B will kill/mash/perforate combatant B if allowed
to use X?  Why do you feel that a guy with a gun receiving the benefits of
Bodyguard, Kentucky Windage, Loaded for Bear is so unbalancing compared to a
guy with a sword receiving the benefits of Stone Skin, Magic Weapon, Bull
Strength?  Other than the fact that Deadlands is on the whole deadlier than
DnD3rd/D20.  It's a matter of strategy, or rather the good use of strategy.
While your hero is setting up his (or her) three favorite Hexes, the villain
could just as easily be setting up Missed Me! and Cloak o' (something my old
brain can't remember now), and while hero casts Loaded for Bear he gets a
big fat Bolt O' Doom for 4d20.  Or just walks into the room in time for the
villain to do nothing more than pull a lever, dropping the ceiling onto the
hero or dropping the floor out from under the hero, both effectively
eliminating the hero's guns from the mix.

Sorry, you probably weren't lookin' for ways to kibosh all your players'
plans, but I'm sittin' at work thinkin' Deadlands!

Jeff Y.