Re: [DL] Combat question

[Dirk <darklord@dark-sky.net>]

Yup, it's fightin vs fightin, if the shooter wins he get to back up and shoot,
if he loses, he gets hit.

--Dirk

William Ogden wrote:

> on backing up, if the shooter backs up and fails the contest of fighting,
> he's hit automatically?
>
> >From: Dirk <darklord@dark-sky.net>
> >Reply-To: deadlands@gamerz.net
> >To: deadlands@gamerz.net
> >Subject: Re: [DL] Combat question
> >Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 00:13:21 -0400
> >
> >This was covered in the rules update in Waste Warriors (pg 81) for HOE:
> >
> >Firearms in Melee
> >  Shooting someone who is trying to knock your head in with a pipe can be
> >hard. Unless the defending gunman has a melee weapon out, he can only
> >defend
> >with fightin brawlin or martial arts. He can only attack a waster who is up
> >close and personal with a pistol or other small firearm. He must use his
> >fightin brawlin to hit instead of shootin.
> >  The shooter can also back up for a shot. This requires the gunman to have
> >pace remaining and to win a contest of fightin. If the shooter loses the
> >contest, he still backs up but his opponent gets to inflict melee damage on
> >him as he does so.
> >
> >That about sums it up.  And yes, before anyone asks, HOE and WWest both use
> >the exact same rules now.  This is stated on page 37 of Waste Warriors.
> >
> >Hope that helps.
> >
> >--Dirk
> >
> >Munch Wolf wrote:
> >
> > > I know this has probably been asked before, but with
> > > the archives down it makes it hard to find the answer.
> > >
> > > The old saying is never bring a knife to a gun fight,
> > > and Deadlands reflects that by having shooting guns in
> > > combat easier than brawling, but what do you do if
> > > someone is trying to wrestle with a gun weildier?
> > > Does it make the shooting harder?  Logic would dictact
> > > yes, but the game mechanics don't really reflect that.
> > >
> > > Example from a session I ran:  One player fired a
> > > bunch of shots with a rifle into a charging vamp.
> > > Eventually the vamp was in his face clawing and
> > > biting.  The player continued to shoot, and even
> > > attempted a called shot to the head.  He then tried to
> > > argue the vamp couldn't bite him anymore because he
> > > had a rifle in his face.  I bit him anyway.  In this
> > > case I could see the vamp getting his brawling skill
> > > as a defensive bonus (but I didn't think of it at the
> > > time).  Has anyone else had a similar situation?
> > >
> > > -Munch Wolf
> > >
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