Re: [DL] Combat question

[Dirk <darklord@dark-sky.net>]

This was covered in the rules update in Waste Warriors (pg 81) for HOE:

Firearms in Melee
 Shooting someone who is trying to knock your head in with a pipe can be
hard. Unless the defending gunman has a melee weapon out, he can only defend
with fightin brawlin or martial arts. He can only attack a waster who is up
close and personal with a pistol or other small firearm. He must use his
fightin brawlin to hit instead of shootin.
 The shooter can also back up for a shot. This requires the gunman to have
pace remaining and to win a contest of fightin. If the shooter loses the
contest, he still backs up but his opponent gets to inflict melee damage on
him as he does so.

That about sums it up.  And yes, before anyone asks, HOE and WWest both use
the exact same rules now.  This is stated on page 37 of Waste Warriors.

Hope that helps.

--Dirk

Munch Wolf wrote:

> I know this has probably been asked before, but with
> the archives down it makes it hard to find the answer.
>
> The old saying is never bring a knife to a gun fight,
> and Deadlands reflects that by having shooting guns in
> combat easier than brawling, but what do you do if
> someone is trying to wrestle with a gun weildier?
> Does it make the shooting harder?  Logic would dictact
> yes, but the game mechanics don't really reflect that.
>
> Example from a session I ran:  One player fired a
> bunch of shots with a rifle into a charging vamp.
> Eventually the vamp was in his face clawing and
> biting.  The player continued to shoot, and even
> attempted a called shot to the head.  He then tried to
> argue the vamp couldn't bite him anymore because he
> had a rifle in his face.  I bit him anyway.  In this
> case I could see the vamp getting his brawling skill
> as a defensive bonus (but I didn't think of it at the
> time).  Has anyone else had a similar situation?
>
> -Munch Wolf
>
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