I believe you count the roll like damge, in that you add all the numbers up, as well as counting the Aces. Otherwise some of the highe numbers like 25-36 or so would be fairly difficult to reach if you only counted one die. That's just the way I ran my posse's though. Anyone else care to chime in? Walt Carmichael "Hey Reverend Grimme, that Turkey dinner sure was awful tasty. Can I have some seconds?"