My friend just told me about how his DM had cured his players of hack'n'slashing. He ran a six hour game of Hero Quest. If I recall, he did it for three or four adventures until the group got the idea. Maybe it'll work for you. Zombi Bobb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/